If only you were mindless and let Dean do all your thinking for you then you might be 'girlfriend' material.

You should have told him about Carville's wife Mary Matalin who is/was on Bush's staff.

That Jerk should fear you! If he had been exposed to you for more than a few days he might be forced to examine the world using logic instead of the DNC talking points of the day. That would have been tragic for him because, you see, he can't even spell. How much less able could he be to put togther words into strings of coherent messages?

thanks a ton for the link. =)

I'm thinking you just dodged a bullet on that one. Some of the most interesting conversations have come from talking with friends whose politics are 180 degrees from mine. I always felt that if you like them enough to be friends, you should like them enough to respect their opinion, or at the very least respect that they are entitled to their own opinion. Regardless of how many steps away from yours it is.

Well, I can understand this from a religious perspective.

The argument I give for why religious jews should only marry other jews is because if the religion is important to you then you would persumambly want to raise your kids in the same manner, and only assured way to do that is with a spouse who places the same importance.

Now one can extend this analogy to politics (he obviously want to raise his future children to be democrats, and having a republican influence in their life is no good).

The only difference is, religion is a matter of belief, while political affiliation should be a matter of intellectual thought. One can say it's the difference b/w non-sense (not "nonsense") vs. sense. Religion is non-sense, in that at the end of the day its about belief, while things like science and political affiliation is all about "sense". Though it appears this person's political thoughts are just real nonsense.

You know, I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and I don't automatically turn off to someone who has conservative views. I find it equally difficult to have a conversation with a liberal who is knee-jerk and can't think for themselves as I do a conservative of the same ilk.
Having said that, I find myself attracted (in most aspects of my life) to like-minded people, and can see the religios analogy made above (particularly since I'm Jewish also!). I don't, however, agree that politics is not about belief. I think, when you get down to it, that all things we think/talk about stem from how we see the world.
Bottom line: he seems like a real prize!

Let me start by saying I'm not democrat or republican - I'm a lib or indy at most. Let me also say I dispise the democratic party. I used to be a democrat, even voted for clinton. I was younger and stupider then, and quit frankly just thought it was cool that the president played sax on late night tv. All that changed and now I'm embarrassed to admit that I ever 'belonged' to that party.

So on to topic..
I could never be with a person who advocates killing babies, more taxes, sensless environmental 'protections' (the likes of which has caused the burning down of half our forests), sensless political postering which belittles our country and ruins the moral of our troops, says the republicans stole the election, supports lying to the american public, thinks it's ok for a president to cheat on his wife and bring down / make a mockery of the presidential office, and the list goes on.

The democratic party is no longer the democratic party... it is the socialist party, and the little red commies they have become just suck!

With all that said, everyone is entitled to their opinions and I respect that - I'm also entitled to my opinion and I think the democratic party has become the party of worthless scum :)

If any of you that read this are democrats, I hope your face is as red as your party.

I'm single, somewhere between Libertarian and Republican, and I live in *Northern* California. Hell, I even grew up in Santa Cruz. Don't give up hope! In California people seem to equate "I'm Republican" with "I'm selfish and greedy," so I think it's not so much that we're not out there, but we're just not so loud about it as the leftists...

This political philosophy polarization of which you speak is alarming.

Jeez, I thought we Republicans were the closed minded bunch!

As a friend of mine would say, "What a putz."

I know several Republican men in California -- good looking, educated, and gainfully employed. Unfortunately, we're all taken, but I've got a few friends in Texas who you might like ;)

if he'd sent me that letter i think my reply would've been something along the lines of:

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john,

not being gay i'm not particularly attracted to you but i did have a really great time at dinner last nite. . . the thing is, i cannot believe you are an asshat and i will not associate with you. . .

i'm sorry, i really liked you until i heard you were a cockbite. . .

-b
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but then again that's probably why i'm a friendless loser. . .

JT -- damn, I wish I had thought to use the killing babies line. Next time, I will if god forbid this situation were to arise again.

Bloopy -- People just don't use the word "cockbite" enough! Thanks for making me laugh. Makes me wish I had posted about this when it occured...my response would have been much sharper.

Mox,

What a loser that guy turned out to be! Yikes...

-- Martin

take heart little mox,

This is an odious, insular burg filled with hateful, self-loathing people.

I'm one of them.

And I'm a Republican.

I wish I could say the glass is half full, but it's broken on the kitchen floor and I have chards in my foot. Ouch.

Talk about a closed mind. His loss, the dipshit. And I would call anyone by that name if they were so narrow as to let politics get in the way of even associating with someone.

Maybe he's afraid your arguements would be so well-thought it might cause him some discomfort - or even change his mind.

Oh, Moxie, once again you shock them with your independence and individual ideas! If only you were the submissive, quiet, acquiescing and smiling sort fo partner they want!
Anyway, a toast to ideas, even though they clash. Specially when they clash!

Well, I'm sort of a cultural conservative and otherwise an unreconstructed Scoop Jacksonian. Nevertheless, I'd be happy to date you and enjoy spirited political conservations with you.

John had a hangup about political differences. I hope you don't have any problems with these unimportant factors:

1. I live in Detroit.
2. I am old enough to be your father.
3. I'm not very attractive.
4. I have a terrible sense of humor, and it runs towards puns.

If you can get past these minor points, e-mail me and I'll give you my phone number.

Well, I'm sort of a cultural conservative and otherwise an unreconstructed Scoop Jacksonian. Nevertheless, I'd be happy to date you and enjoy spirited political conservations with you.

John had a hangup about political differences. I hope you don't have any problems with these unimportant factors:

1. I live in Detroit.
2. I am old enough to be your father.
3. I'm not very attractive.
4. I have a terrible sense of humor, and it runs towards puns.

If you can get past these minor points, e-mail me and I'll give you my phone number.

GAH! That's pretty trollish. It's strange when we find show-stoppers (whether they're direct or indirect) in people.

I had a strange time recently dating a "very" Catholic woman. My own views run between Taoism and plain old nihilistic athiesm, so it was "interesting." Fortunately I found that her approach to religion and the place it had in her life was more 'intellectually robust' (for lack of a reasonable term altogether.) She's a medical malpractice lawyer and to watch her brain twist around a particular case involving a medically necessary abortion was fascinating.

There ended up being other problems, but DAMN did we have some great conversation.

Tell you what. I'll have a bunch of the NYC LibDem husband hunters shipped to SoCal if you come out here. ;-)

I think he just realized that his votes would not count because yours would nullify his. Then he realized that he has no purpose for his party and is now curled up in some corner crying. ;) I find it sad that people will jump to conclusions just based off of a party that you belong to. I mean look at me, I am a Republican that believes in prolife, gun rights, and nuking Sadom and his like, but I do have my opinions that differ… like … umm… not beating you up because you do not believe the same things I do… and … umm … I will have to get back to you on the others.

Imagine that, an independent, attractive blond, that knows something about cars, living in CA. I keep looking for more like you, but they are all taken.

Moxie:

Goddamn, what an insecure twit!

Much love,

SWLiP

Tolerance they preach, but practice it they will not. So much for diversity of thought......Actually, I would think that you would be more attractive because of your conservative politics; it shows that you are a real individual and I (if liberal) would find that interesting and attractive. I'm 23 and liberal girls are certainly the norm here and boston, but the rare conservative girl who can hold her own is true originality! I will keep reading, check out my similar site from the east coast!

Only you, Mox.

I swear, I'm gonna buy you a stud finder for Christmas...one that selects men for you ONLY AFTER weeding out the losers.

I'm almost speechless here. Two of my best friends have just had their second child. She's a true blue conservative Republican and he's a screaming liberal Democrat. They're one of the best fits I've ever seen. If this John cannot fathom dating you simply because your political beliefs differ from his, well, you're much better off finding out now what a weenie he is. Good luck using your Christmas gift from Da Goddess.

I guess you can be thankful that you found out what he was really like from his reaction to your politics. At least you didn't end up wasting too much time with him although it must be disappointing all the same.

Console yourself with the thought that people so kneejerkingly ideological as this tool almost invariably spawn their political opposites: he'll surely find his GOP children to be completely infuriating.

Or at least one certainly hopes so.

Either:

1. You weren't wearing your white go-go boots...

or

2. John is gay...

This is a sad story, and I hope you got over it well.
Seen from Europe it seems like the US are breaking apart - the gap between Liberals and Repuclicans widening all the time.
Somehow everyone gets more fundamentalistic in these days.
Am I wrong?

The man is deluded.

Sweetie, the guy was a Cali morlock. You're better off without.

Moxie's never dated a Republican?? Oh if I had only gotten that job in LA the other month... sigh.
Move to Atlanta babe, we're a dime a dozen here. My housemate John's a Dem and his girlfriend's an open-minded Republican. It never seemed to bother him. This particular John must be a real asshat.

All of my best friends are Democrats; we get along by not discussing politics. But it wears on me to NOT reply to some of the crap they spew on occassion just because I want to defer argument and keep my friends. (They are the types who listen only to NPR and believe they are enlightened because of it.)

A long-term relationship would be difficult under similar circumstances. No doubt there are some liberals you could get along with, but he doesn't strike me as one of them. Getting dumped so abruptly saved you from a much harder breakup later.